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PCC Courier, November 17, 1978
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VOL. 46, NO. 11 PASADENA CITY COLLEGE, PASADENA, CALIFORNIA NOVEMBER 17, 1978
Lancers Win
Mud Bowl,
See Page Four
ASB Board and Senate
Raise Each Other's Ire
known as a riotous group. This
meeting has gotten outrageously out of
hand." He asked Tiberi to apologize to
Coleman. Tiberi extended his
apologies and asked if they could hold
a formal debate on the matter.
The student trustee amendment was
“I’m not too pleased with the
way we’re going about it.”
— Tyrone Patrick
introduced to the ASB Board at us
meeting by Tiberi. The meeting
preceeded the senate meeting.
Tiberi distributed information
concerning the statute to the board
members. Coleman asked Tiberi if this
was part of the senate report.
It was moved to continue with other
agenda items, since the statute was on
the' agenda under "old business"
Coleman quickly ran down the agenda,
and gave Tiberi the floor.
Tiberi referred the ASB Board to the
law. statute 72023.5 of the education
code, and answered their questions
regarding the amendment.
Les Thompson, finance com¬
missioner. made a motion to discuss
this at another meeting. Lisa
Albanese. ASB vice president, then
made a move to adjourn, an action that
halts any further discussion
A quick voice-vote on the motion was
passed unanimously, and the meeting
adjourned, leaving the amendment
automatically tabled to the next
meeting.
Mike Tiberi. student senator and
author of the senate amendment
stressed the importance of the
amendent and felt that it should be
voted on as soon as possible.
The amendment creates a new ASB
office for a student trustee and
requires an election by the student
body.
“It says in the law itself that the
student trustee be chosen by the
students enrolled in the community
college of the district,’- he said in an
earlier interview. “It's now in our
legal right and we don't have to ask the
board for premission,” he said.
Tiberi wants the amendment passed
as soon as possible, have someone
elected to the position and the Board of
Trustees at the earliest possible date.
Lisa Albanese, ASB vice-president,
thinks the taw is confusing enough.
"I've read it, but it’s very confusing.
We really haven't had a chance to sit
down and look over just what we're
voting on. It would be unfair to ask us
to vote on something that hs just been
given to us.
"It's an important issue, but we
shouldn't rush in to it. The person
should probably be appointed, though,
because they should have some kind of
knowledge of how meetings are run,
and parlimantary procedure"
“It’s an important issue, but we
shouldn’t rush into it.”
— Lisa Aloanese
The statute does not state that the
"student shall be enrolled in a com
munity college of the district, and shall
be chosen by the students enrolled in
the community college of the district in
accordance with procedures
prescribed by the governing board.”
Strictly interpreted, this means the
Board of Trustees select the process by
which the student trustee is chosen,
and student government has no voice
in the matter at all. If the Board of
Trustee wants to prescribe the method
the student trustee should be chosen
the have that right: and it they chose
not to prescribe that selection process,
then it is up to student government to
decide .
Misinterpretations Reign Over
Statute About Student Trustee
CROWNED IN THE GOLD— Vickey Turner enjoys the crowning af¬
termath with escort Bobby DePriest. She was voted in as
homecoming queen by the students. A total of 380 votes were cast.
See page 6. —courier photo by s.k.
By Kathy Braidhill
News Editor
Student senators used parliamen¬
tary procedure to antagonize the ASB
president during the senate meeting,
and a surprise move by the ASB board
to adjourn was used to delay any ASB
board action yesterday on the con¬
troversial amendment concerning the
student trustee during the ASB Board
meeting.
The two meetings brought to a
climax the subliminal tensions bet¬
ween the two student government
groups.
Derek Coleman, ASB president,
gave the executive board report and
was addressing the senators on the
amendment. According toi Charlotte
Hutchins, senate vice president, he
was to talk strictly on what happened
at the executive board meeting, and
she called numerous points of order to
bring his discussion back to the
agenda.
Ms. Hutchins and Mike Tiberi,
student senator, brought more points
of order to correct Coleman's
reference to the statute, and made
motions to limit his time on the floor,
and to complete the agenda, per¬
mitting Coleman to speak during
audience participation.
The senate voted to let Coleman
speak for five minutes.
During his presentation, he was
interrupted numerous times by loud
coughing from Cynthia Mayert.
student representative, while Coleman
explained why the ASB president
should represent the students as the
student trustee.
Coleman also said, “I’m afraid
you’re getting shang-haied into voting
for this amendment. I think you were
given false facts and...”
Tiberi then interrupted with a point
of order, claiming Coleman was
“attacking” him, and Tyrone Patrick,
senate president, called the meeting
back to order to let Coleman continue.
Coleman said the job discription of
his office names him as the
representative of the students at PCC,
and requires him to be presen at all
Board of Trustees meetings. He said
one who may be elected to the trustee
position might not understand about
the rules and procedures and “know
how the administration works.”
Ms. Mayert protested Coleman's
“[A student trustee] is our legal
right and we don’t have to ask
the board for permission.”
— Mike Tiberi
statements and claimed he was in¬
sulting the intelligence and political
savvy of the senators.
Patrick called for order when she
continued talking loudly, and Ms.
Mayert challenged the senate to throw
her out. She was asked to leave or
remain quiet.
At the conclusion of the meeting.
Patrick said. "I don't want this to be
DOESN’T LOOK LIKE A BAD GUY— Paul Smith, one of the Turkish
guards in the movie “Midnight Express,” came to PC Ts Little Theater
last week to talk with theatrical students. He answered questions and
talked of his start in films.
Eight Months Added
For Board of Trustees
trustees taking office in March are
An education code statute misun¬
derstood and misinterpreted by
student government and the press has
created confusion and tension between
the student senate and the ASB
BOARD.
A lack of communication between
the members and leaders in student
government combined with views of
the significant statute through cloud
у
interpretations, and changing forms
almost daily are factors in the
dissidence.
The heart of the controversial
statute concerns a studentmember on
the board of trustees, or the governing
board of the community college. That
means that a student no longer has to
be "recognized” by a board member to
be heard at a board meeting
Members of student government
first heard of the law from the
delegates to the California Community
Colleges Student Government
Association (CCCSGA) conference
Oct. 20-22. Derek Coleman, ASB
president. Tyrone Patrick, senate
president, and Charlotte Hutchins,
student senator, represented PCC at
the conference.
The CCCSGA delegates returned
from the convention with AB591, the
law in the aassembly bill stage. This
was the loosely worded proposal
brought before the state assembly.
The govenor signed the bill into law
in June, 1977 and it became Ch. 1184.
The rights and priveleges of the
student trustee remained to be clar-
fied, and the method for selection of
the trustee was unclear. Both sections
of ASB are unsure of the power the
student trustee would have, and are
conflicting over the method by which
the student trustee is chosen.
It states the student trustee member
be "chosen by the students on the
board pursuant to procedures
prescribed by the governing board."
This was interpreted by some senate
members to mean that students
already on the board are to select the
students to serve on the board.
An amendment was passed
unanimously in the student senate to
add an article to the ASB constitution
including election of the student
trustee in the general spring elections,
creating an entirlely new ASB office.
The ASB board has not yet decided
on this amendment. Coleman said the
job description of the ASB president
requires him to attend board of
DEREK COLEMAN
LISA ALBANESE
trustees meetings. “They may elect-
someone who doesn't know enough
about hpw meetings are run. But I
think it can be worked out,” he said.
"I don't believe in rushing it" said
Lisa Albanese. ASB vice-president. "It
probably should be an appointed
position. I need more information
before I can sav."
A new discovery wound its way into
the picture.
Ch. 1184 was amended July. 1978.
and is now Statute 7202:1.5 oi he
education code. This revision
minimizes much of the ambiguities of
the bill and of the chapter.
Although at no time did any of the
laws state the student trustee would
have voting rights, a Courier reporter
received the wrong information in¬
dicating the student trustee would
have a vote and his November 3 story
in the Courier only served to muddy
the picture.
The major points of Statute 72023.5
are:
—The governing board of each
community college district shall order
the inclusion of one or more non-voting
student trustees:
—Students selected to serve on the
board must be residents of the district,
enrolled in that community college,
and must serve for one year com¬
mencing July 1:
—Student trustee has the right to
attend all trustee meetings except
executive sessions;
—Students enrolled in the com¬
munity college shall choose the
trustee, and can be recalled by the
same;
—They get a milage allowance but
don't get paid for attending the
meetings;
—Student trustee seated with the
board is recognized as a full member
and receives all materials presented to
the board members, and can par¬
ticipate in the questioning of wit¬
nesses, and discussion of issues;
—Student trustee cannot cast a
deciding vote to defeat or carry a
motin.and is not liable for any action of
the governing board.
Several points remain to be settled
between the senate and ASB board.
What will be the position of the
student trustee in student govern¬
ment? Will he have a vote and or a
voice in the student senate and the ASB
board?
Does the student trustee have the
right to make, table, or amend
motions? The education code only
names two restrictions; that they
cannot vote and are not allowed in
executive sessions.
However, parliamentary procedure
(rules on running formal meetings),
states that those who do not vote also
do not have the right to make, amend
or table motions.
The law doesn't put a limit on the
number of trustees, and does not hold
him accountable to anyone. Is he on
the same level as the ASB president, or
will he be the fourth check and balance
of student government?
It's up to the leaders of student
government to overcome their dif¬
ferences and work together on
deciding these essential issues.
-Kathy Braidhill
By Sharon Stafford
Staff Writer
Board of Trustee member’s will get
an extra eight months in office next
year due to a change by the California
Legislature concerning board of
education elections throughout the
state.
The change is a result of AB 2224
which was authored by Assemblyman
Bruce K. Young. D-Norwalk. and
signed by Gov. Jerry Brown It is ef¬
fective January 1
Under the new law. trustees whose
terms would have expired March 31
will serve until November 30. Newly
elected trustees w ill take office at that
time.
The reason for the change in school
board election dates is that new
immediately saddled with budget
decisions, negotiating with employee
unions and preparing lor the next
school year. By November, these
problems are usually resolved, which
should make it easier for new mem
hers to assume their duties.
The PCC Trustees who will be af¬
fected, by the new law next year are:
Board President Charles Briscoe.
Roger Gertmenian. and Robert Spare.
When asked if he was in favor of the
change in election dates Trustee
Robert Spare laughed and replied.
"Certainly. It means 1 11 he in office lor
six more months " Spare says that he
is generally in favor of the new
assembly bill because "it'll certainly
save .the district nev "
/^Campus News Briefs5^
Orchestra
The Pasadena City College Community Symphony Orchestra will
present its first concert of the season tonight at 8:15 p.m. in Sexon
Auditorium.
The 55-member orchestra is comprised of PCC students, and
musicians in the community.
Director Wayne Reinecke said the orchestra is stronger this year
than it was this time last year. With rehearsals once a week, Reinecke
said they are working hard to prepare for the performance.
Admission to the concert is free. The selections performed will be
Beethoven's “Fifth Symphony,” the "Nabuccu Overture” by Verdi,
and Wagner’s “Music From Parsifal.”
This concert will open a series of four this season.
Forensics
"Often we are too busy running the tournament to participate,
but this year we did exceptionally well,” commented Joe Probst,
forensic team faculty adviser. PCC hosted the Lancer Division
Speech Tournament.
Dave Jackson received third in the novice division of the Lincoln-
Douglas debate and first in the extemporaneous division.
In the expository division, Beth Fernandez took a novice first,
and Don Vecchioni received a superior certificate.
Margie Dolnick received a novice superior in oral interpretation
and, in the persuasion category, Susan Sadag won a novice superior.
The tournament is the largest community college tournament in
the nation. More than 300 students from 26 colleges participated.
Probst is optimistic about this year’s forensics team. “In the past
we have been strong in one or two divisions, but this year we are
outstanding in all areas.” Cal State Northridge hosts a three-day
tournament this weekend, starting today.
Canned Food
.Today's the final day of Adelphians canned food drive. Every fall
and spring, this all-women service club collects canned food from
students and from the nearby neighborhoods.
"The canned food drive we hold is in association with the
Pasadena Ecumenical Council,” said Loretta Clarke, Adelphians
president. "And all the food we collect goes to the needy families in
Pasadena"
The drive began November 13. Tonight the Adelphians will go to
houses and collect food that families have donated.
Students may deposit their canned goods in boxes located in the
library, the women’s gym, the C building, and upstairs in the Campus
Center.
Income Tax
A tax practitioner seminar will be offered December 9 from 8:30
a m. to 4:30 p.m. in the Forum, in cooperation with the Internal
Revenue Service. Its purpose is to familiarize the public with the new
tax law changes, as well as to teach the do's and don'ts of filing
federal income tax returns. .
The office of extended programs will sponsor the eight hour
seminar. Three IRS tax experts will speak on tax laws pertaining to
business-type returns, and current developments.
“It's a very fine service, keeping the community well informed of
tax changes,” said William Simmons, chairman of extended campus
programs. More than 150 tax preparers have attended the seminar,
which is in its fourth year.
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